In October 2009 I was interviewed by Bill Salus, author of the popular Psalm 83-themed book Isralestine, host of the radio program "Prophecy Update," and evangelist on the end times website Prophecy Depot. Bill and I spent much of the interview discussing my recent article The Wars of the End Times.
Bill has been kind enough to allow The Christ in Prophecy Journal to reproduce the "The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible" interview in transcript form, edited into an article series. To listen to the original radio program in mp3 format, I invite you to visit Prophecy Depot or KWBB.
In the last segment, Bill and I discussed end time wars 7 and 8 — The Middle East Campaign of the Antichrist (Daniel 11) and The Battle of Armageddon (Joel 3, Zechariah 14, and Revelation 19). In this final segment, we look at the last end time war in human history.
Is there another war after Armageddon?
Bill Salus: We are going to end with the ninth battle because people must be wondering what comes after Armageddon. How could there be another war after that? Doesn't Jesus come and set up His Kingdom?
Dr. Reagan: There is another battle of Gog and Magog, believe it or not. It is one that people often confuse with the first battle of Gog and Magog. I have seen entire books written where people try to prove that they are the same battle, but I don't see it that way at all. The first Battle of Gog and Magog is Russia coming down with certain specified allies against Israel. The second battle of Gog and Magog is once again Russia leading the whole world, not certain specified allies, but the whole world in revolt against the reign of Jesus Christ. Now those are two big differences. One you've got specified allies and it's an invasion of Israel, the other is leading the whole world against not Israel but Jesus Christ, trying to overthrow His reign.
This Second Battle of Gog and Magog occurs at the end of the Millennium after 1,000 years of perfect peace, righteousness and justice. Satan is let loose and basically what he says to the world is, "Let's go get the joker in Jerusalem and overthrow him."
It is astonishing to think that probably even the majority of those living in the flesh during that time will decide to join in this revolt against Jesus Christ. People will often say to me, "How could that be? The world has celebrated 1,000 years of perfect peace, righteousness and justice."
My response to that is, "Stop and think for a moment what it would be like to live under the rule of the rod of iron, under the rule of Jesus Christ in the flesh." The flesh wants everything the flesh wants — a little gambling here, a little promiscuous sex over there, some booze over here — all the things that the flesh wants. Those in the flesh during that time will know that if they violate the law they will be arrested and be tried immediately, given an immediate sentence by a person in a glorified body with the mind of Christ. There will be no appeal whatsoever because the first decision will be perfect. So what do you do? You sit on all of these desires and you say, "We love you Lord." But, you are saying it with clenched teeth and you don't mean it at all. And so, when Satan comes along and says, "Let's over throw him!," I think there is going to be a tremendous burst of rebellion and people will agree to "Let's do it!"
What I think is that the Bible moves in a circle. It begins with two people in a perfect environment who rebel against God. It ends with all of humanity in a perfect environment and most of humanity rebelling against God. What is God doing here? He is proving once and for all that you cannot change people by changing their environment. The only way you can change them is through the revolution of the Holy Spirit coming within their lives through faith in Jesus Christ and being transformed. You cannot transform them by changing their environment. All humanists believe that evil is in society and not in man, and if you can just change society you can change man, but the Bible says evil is rooted in man and the only hope for changing that is through the power of the Holy Spirit.
Bill Salus: Well, David, when we were preaching together in Louisiana at the prophecy conference you said, "You are no longer just watching for the signs." What are you watching for now?
Dr. Reagan: I'm not watching for anything. I am listening for a sound. I am listening for the shout of an angel and the blowing of a trumpet.
Bill Salus: Amen to that one, David!