Friday, October 30, 2009

The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible: Part 4

Dr. David R. ReaganPDFBy Dr. David R. Reagan

In October 2009 I was interviewed by Bill Salus, author of the popular Psalm 83-themed book Isralestine, host of the radio program "Prophecy Update," and evangelist on the end times website Prophecy Depot. Bill and I spent much of the interview discussing my recent article The Wars of the End Times.


Bill Salus

Bill has been kind enough to allow The Christ in Prophecy Journal to reproduce the "The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible" interview in transcript form, edited into an article series. To listen to the original radio program in mp3 format, I invite you to visit Prophecy Depot or KWBB.

In the last segment, Bill and I discussed the second end time wars — The First War of Gog-Magog. In this segment, we look at the third and fourth end time wars in the series.


Tell us about the end time wars 3 and 4 — The Conventional War of the Tribulation (Revelation 6) and the Nuclear War of the Tribulation (Revelation 8 & 9).

Bill Salus: Let's move onto war number three — Revelation 6. What do we have going there, David?

Dr. Reagan: A lot of people believe that when the Tribulation begins that the whole world will be so taken by the Antichrist because he will be such a dynamic, charismatic personality that the whole world will just bow down and start worshipping him. I don't believe that at all. I think that will be true in Europe. I think he will be seen as a great Savior. I think the Israeli's will look upon him as a political Savior, though not a spiritual one, just a political one. I think he will rise to power in Europe peacefully through his cunning and through his charismatic and dynamic leadership. But, I don't think the rest of the world is going to bow down immediately and accept him as a world leader. Africa and Asia and Latin America have spent 200 years getting out from underneath European dominance and they are not going to suddenly turn around and bow down to some European leader and say, "Come rule us." I think that he is going to have to conquer them.

In Revelation 6 we see the beginnings of a great conventional war in the Tribulation period when the Antichrist is setting out to conquer the entire world. I believe the ones who will oppose him the most will be the remaining Muslims. I believe God will work through these wars to finish off Islam, and this will be the pouring out of God's wrath upon Islam. I think that the war will result in the destruction of many of these Islamic nations, but it is going to start out I believe as a conventional war. I think that is what we read about in Revelation 6.

What happens in Revelation 8 and 9, is the war morphing into a nuclear war. When I read Revelation 8 and 9 it reads more like a nuclear confrontation where 2/3 of the Earth is burned up. At the end of the book of Revelation we see people covered with loathsome and malignant sores that will not heal, which could be a result of nuclear radiation from this war.

So, I basically think that the Tribulation will begin with a conventional war that will morph into a nuclear war, and through those two wars the Antichrist will be able to take over the entire Earth. It says in Revelation 13 that He will end up ruling every tribe, every tongue and every nation on planet Earth. He is going to do this through military conquest.

Bill Salus: Okay, you actually covered a bit of the fourth war when you skipped on over to Revelation 8 and 9, and they do segway well into one another — a 1-2-3 punch.

In Zephaniah 2:11, it does talk about God destroying all the false gods of the Earth.

Dr. Reagan: That's right.

Bill Salus: And so, what you might be suggesting here is a partial fulfillment of at least the God of Islam — Allah — through Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39?

Dr. Reagan: I think by the middle of the Tribulation Islam is going to be a past memory.


Do you believe the Rapture will occur prior to this Tribulational war?

Dr. Reagan: Yes, I do. I think the Rapture will happen before the Tribulation and that the world will be left in chaos. Of course, it will be more in the United States than in any other nation in the world because we have more Christians in this country than all of Western Europe and England put together right now. So, it will be absolute chaos in some areas of the world, moreso than others. And so, yes, I think we will be taken out before all of this happens.

Bill Salus: What a platform the Antichrist will have to spread his lies about what happened to the Christians, because the world is going to wonder about the disappearances. To emerge on the backdrop of these wars using satanically fueled signs and lying wonders, this guy is indeed going to be recognized as the Antichrist by the Tribulation believers, not to mention the fact that somewhere in the mix we've got to have that false covenant signed (Daniel 9:27; Isa. 28).

Dr. Reagan: Right.


In the next segment, Bill and I will be discussing end time wars 5 and 6 — The War in the Heavens (Revelation 12) and the War Against the Jews and the Saints (Revelation 12).

Thursday, October 29, 2009

The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible: Part 3

Dr. David R. ReaganPDFBy Dr. David R. Reagan

In October 2009 I was interviewed by Bill Salus, author of the popular Psalm 83-themed book Isralestine, host of the radio program "Prophecy Update," and evangelist on the end times website Prophecy Depot. Bill and I spent much of the interview discussing my recent article The Wars of the End Times.


Bill Salus

Bill has been kind enough to allow The Christ in Prophecy Journal to reproduce the "The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible" interview in transcript form, edited into an article series. To listen to the original radio program in mp3 format, I invite you to visit Prophecy Depot or KWBB.

In the last segment, Bill and I discussed the timing of the Rapture and the United States in relation to what I call the "War of Extermination" based on Psalm 83, which we believe is the first end time war. In this segment, we look at the second end time war in the series — the First War of Gog-Magog.


After the Psalm 83 War of Extermination, as you call it, would the second end time war in the series be the First War of Gog-Magog?

Bill Salus: Let's talk about the war that naturally would seem to follow the taking out of the inner circle of Arab nations around Israel in Psalm 83. It would appear then according to your article that Ezekiel 38 and 39 would be ripe to occur?

Dr. Reagan: Yes, I think that if Israel will be living in peace, it would be with expanded borders and great wealth. I think that the whole Arab world then would naturally turn to Russia which is their natural ally and invite the Russians to come down and assist them. And, I think this is going to set the stage for the Ezekiel 38 and 39 war which would be the second of these wars.

Russia will come down with Turkey and Iran and with other Muslim nations that surround Israel in an outer circle. In fact, all of the Arab nations are Muslim nations in the outer circle, except for Saudi Arabia which the Bible says will sit on the sidelines and not get involved. I think that would be the next war.

I think that Russia would come after not only the great wealth of Israel, but I really believe that they will be coming down also for the wealth of the Arab nations. Russia has always wanted the Middle East. They have always wanted the oil fields. They have always wanted a greater presence there. And, for the Arabs to invite them to come to take care of Israel, well, I think they will be coming with a smile, not only to take care of Israel, but also to put all of the Middle East under their hegemony and have greater control of that area.

You may remember that after World War II Russia invaded Iran and refused to remove their troops until after the end of World War II. President Truman called in their foreign minister for a meeting. When the meeting was finished the Russian minister came out and he was white as a sheet. He was asked, "What did the President say?" H replied, "All I can say to you is that I have never been talked to like that in my entire life." What Truman basically told Russia was, "You either get out of Iran or we'll drop a nuclear bomb on you." They withdrew their troops, but they still wanted Iran.

Bill Salus: I give credit to Joel Rosenberg and Chuck Smith from Calvary Chapel and many of those people who are teaching pretty strongly about the Ezekiel 38 and 39 War. We are suggesting that perhaps this war is near, but it's not the next war.

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Bill Salus: A lot of good articles are being forwarded around that Russia and Iranian national relations have never been stronger. Russia is helping Iran with their nuclear program. We've also recently got Turkey, a member of the Ezekiel 38-39 coalition, contracted to get the S-400 missile defense system. And Libya, who is also involved, Russian recently contracted with Libya to develop a nuclear program of their own.

Dr. Reagan: I think the things that are happening in Turkey are very important along this line, because the Turks have wanted so much to get into the European Union. The European Union is scared to death of them because they know that the moment they were to be added to the European Union they would have to allow free immigration into all of Western Europe and there would be a flood of Muslims into Western Europe, which they don't want. So, they have found every reason in the world to keep the Turks out. And, as they have done that, the Turks have become more and more upset.

Turkey now has a very nationalistic leadership that is very Muslim-oriented and is basically saying they need to become a Muslim nation, which they already are, but they aren't in their government yet. Turkey is saying that they need to do that. What I think we are seeing is Turkey being forced to turn its attention away from the West and back towards the East, getting in bed with its natural allies.

Bill Salus: Turkey over the past few decades has looked like a fish out of water.

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Bill Salus: I am going to put a plug in here for Dr. Ron Rhodes, he has a book called Northern Storm Rising. It is an excellent book to give you a broad perspective of the whole Ezekiel 38 and 39 invasion.

Dr. Reagan: It is an excellent book! The only weakness of it is that it was written before your book, and so Ron doesn't consider Psalm 83, but he certainly has a lot of good arguments in there. The book is about the timing of the Ezekiel 38 and 39 War. It asks when the war will be — "At the middle of the Tribulation? At the beginning of the Tribulation? Before the Tribulation?" He believes that it will occur about 3 1/2 years before the Tribulation starts.

Bill Salus: As does Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum and myself. I believe even you, correct?

Dr. Reagan: Yes, that is true.


Do you believe that this Russian-Iranian led consortium will be a nuclear equipped invasion of Israel?

Dr. Reagan: Yes, I think there will be nuclear weapons that they will certainly bring with them. Whether they will use them or not I don't know, but they'll certainly bring them with them. The Bible in Ezekiel 38-39 talks about the Israelis using these weapons for seven years, burning them, and it could well be that it is talking about nuclear fuel.

Bill Salus: I concur.


Will Islam survive?

Bill Salus: There has been a lot of promotion lately about an Islamic Antichrist. Now, if Psalm 83 consisting of primarily Muslim countries and Ezekiel 38 and 39 consisting of numerous Muslim countries, and if these wars end up in a bitter defeat for Islam as we know they will, then what does that say for the survival of Islam?

Dr. Reagan: Well, it doesn't say a whole lot because I think God is going to be using these wars. One of the purposes of these wars will be that God will use them to judge Islam. I think that when these two wars are over with, you are going to find Islam in total disarray in the Middle East, because all of the Islamic nations will have been defeated except for Saudi Arabia.

Of course, the vast majority of Muslims in the world do not even live in the Middle East, they are not Arabs, they live in other countries. The largest Muslim country in the world is Indonesia, the second largest is India, the third largest is Bangladesh, and the fourth would be Pakistan. So those are your big Muslim nations which are not even in the Middle East, but certainly Islam is going to suffer an overwhelming defeat in the Middle East.

Bill Salus: Recently President Obama said that America was one of the largest populated Muslim countries.

Dr. Reagan: I think he must have been smoking something.

Bill Salus: Jack Kinsella came on my radio program and cleared that up. He said the CIA Fact Book says that there have been more people who believed they were abducted by aliens than there are Muslims, so obviously his facts were a little bit messed up on that.

Now regarding Saudi Arabia not being involved in Ezekiel 38 and 39, they will be taking a hit for their role in Psalm 83, though not necessarily a devastating hit. Ezekiel 25:12-15 does say that Dan shall fall by the sword. It also talks about the Hamas in the Philistia area getting hit, as well as it appears the Palestinian representatives of the Edomites in those passages.


In the next segment, Bill and I will be discussing end time wars 3 and 4 — The Conventional War of the Tribulation (Revelation 6) and the The Nuclear War of the Tribulation (Revelation 8 & 9).

Wednesday, October 28, 2009

The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible: Part 2

Dr. David R. ReaganPDFBy Dr. David R. Reagan

In October 2009 I was interviewed by Bill Salus, author of the popular Psalm 83-themed book Isralestine, host of the radio program "Prophecy Update," and evangelist on the end times website Prophecy Depot. Bill and I spent much of the interview discussing my recent article The Wars of the End Times.


Bill Salus

Bill has been kind enough to allow The Christ in Prophecy Journal to reproduce the "The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible" interview in transcript form, edited into an article series. To listen to the original radio program in mp3 format, I invite you to visit Prophecy Depot or KWBB.

In the last segment, Bill and I identified what I call the "War of Extermination" based on Psalm 83 as the first end time war. In this segment, we look at the timing of the Rapture and the United States in relation to this war.


Where do you think the Rapture of the Church is going to fit in? Is it going to be pre-Psalm 83, or post-Psalm 83, or what?

Dr. Reagan: I think you just raised a very valid point. I have actually had some of my supporters' write me very concerned messages saying, "Your endorsement of Bill Salus' theory about Psalm 83 means that you no longer believe the Rapture is imminent." And, I have written back and said, "No, not at all. I think the Rapture can occur at any moment."

The Rapture is not what begins the Tribulation. It is some sort of treaty between the Antichrist and Israel that starts the Tribulation. The Rapture could occur a year, 2 years, 3 years, or even 5 years before the start of the Tribulation. The Rapture can occur at any moment. Now, whether it is going to occur before Psalm 83 or during the Psalm 83 War or after that war, I have no idea, Bill. I am not setting dates for the Rapture. I believe the Rapture is an event that can occur at any moment. It could be before the Psalm 83 War, during it, or after it.

Bill Salus: I concur. And, that was the big question! We'll leave the answer as this — if we are still here at the fulfillment of Psalm 83, we need to certainly be prepared to use the foreknowledge of this war as one of our best witnessing tools.

Dr. Reagan: Amen! I think it is unfair of those who attack you saying that if you put in this Psalm 83 War that somehow you are saying that's an event that must occur before the Rapture, and therefore the Rapture is no longer imminent, because that is not the position that you've taken.

Bill Salus: No, it's not. You're right, this topic has come up, so I thank you for clearing it up.


How does the United States play into this war?

Bill Salus: During the Bush Administration when he declared a war on terror, Israel took the advantage of building a 400 mile wall to keep terrorists out. And, it has worked. It has kept Palestinian terror somewhat at bay. Now, you'll start to hear articles coming out about how things on the ground are different there geopolitically, and that maybe there really is an opportunity for some legitimate peace because the Palestinian leadership apart from Hamas is getting a little more conducive to having peace. But, the bottom line is this that wall is what is causing those changes on the ground there.

Currently, President Obama has a 4% or less popularity rating in Israel among Israeli Jews who think he is pro-Israel, according to a Jerusalem Post poll recently issued. He has definitely got Israeli Jews concerned about a sentiment of American betrayal.

Dr. Reagan: He has me concerned along the same line, because the Bible makes it very clear that those that turn against Israel in the end times and try to divide the land that God will deal with them, and He will deal with them in His wrath. We are just begging for the wrath of God upon this nation through the policy that Obama is pursuing.

Think about how hypocritical it was when protestors in Iran were having huge demonstrations in the street after the recent election, and Obama said nothing! He said nothing and he said nothing until finally he was forced to say something, and then he said, "Well, I just don't want to say anything because who am I to interfere in the affairs of another nation. That is a sovereign nation." And yet, he turned right around and began to put all kinds of demands upon Israel, saying to the Israelis, "You can't even build a building in Jerusalem." I mean, come on! What if Israel told us we couldn't build a building in Washington, D.C.?

Bill Salus: Obama is pushing Israel to freeze their settlements which is very controversial right now. Biblically speaking, God is bringing the Jews back into the land and a moratorium on housing does not seem to be part of God's prophetic program.

Dr. Reagan: That's right, that's very right.

Bill Salus: Obama's policy is butting heads with God, and we know where that is all going to end up.


In the next segment, Bill and I will be discussing the second end time war in the series — the First War of Gog-Magog.

Tuesday, October 27, 2009

The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible: Part 1

Dr. David R. ReaganPDFBy Dr. David R. Reagan

In October 2009 I was interviewed by Bill Salus, author of the popular Psalm 83-themed book Isralestine, host of the radio program "Prophecy Update," and evangelist on the end times website Prophecy Depot. Bill and I spent much of the interview discussing my recent article The Wars of the End Times.


Bill Salus

Bill has been kind enough to allow The Christ in Prophecy Journal to reproduce the "The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible" interview in transcript form, edited into an article series. To listen to the original radio program in mp3 format, I invite you to visit Prophecy Depot or KWBB.

In this segment, Bill and I will be discussing why we believe will be the next end times war — what I call the "War of Extermination" based on Psalm 83 — and not the Battle of Armageddon or even the Ezekiel 38-39 War of Gog-Magog.


Introductions

Bill Salus: Welcome to another addition of the Prophecy Update, whereby we attempt to authenticate the sovereignty of God through Bible prophecy by informing you as to what Bible prophecy has to say about these days. Today my good friend Dr. David Reagan will be joining me to discuss the wars of the end times.

David has published a third edition of a must read book called America the Beautiful: The United States in Bible Prophecy. This release couldn't be timelier in the light of the genuine concerns about America's future. Dr. Reagan is an expert on the subject. I say this not just because he has a solid prophetic background, but because he has an extensive political one as well. Isn't that correct, David?

Dr. Reagan: Well, that is true. I was highly involved in politics for about 20 years. Plus, I was also a professor on American Politics, Constitutional Law and International Law and Politics.

Bill Salus: Many people probably didn't realize the background you have there.


Will the next end time war be Armageddon?

Bill Salus: Now, to the topic of the wars of the end time. As you well know, David, Hezbollah has 40,000 rockets aimed at Israel. Some of those may be targeting Tel Aviv someday soon. Iran is about to produce their first nuclear weapon and North Korea is also rattling their nuclear sabers at Israel. Israel is considering a preemptive strike upon Iran. All this has people, of course, concerned that we could be heading for the end times Armageddon War. Now, what do you think this is all leading up to? Is it Armageddon, David?

Dr. Reagan: Well, it is certainly leading up to a major confrontation. But, it is not going to be Armageddon. As I said in the article that I published recently about these wars of the end times, it seems like the only war that most people are aware of is the War of Armageddon, or what is called or referred to as the "Battle of Armageddon."

Every time a war breaks out in the Middle East, as you well know, Bill, you get a bunch of calls and messages. I do, and so does everybody else involved in Bible prophecy. People are asking, "Is this the war of Armageddon?" Even the secular world — that's the only end time war that they know about. They are always writing about and wondering if maybe this or that is the War of Armageddon.

The War of Armageddon is just one of them, as I point out in my article. There are different ways to count them, but I have counted nine end time wars that are in Bible prophecy. Armageddon is just one of those, and it certainly is not going to be the next one.

Bill Salus: Revelation 16:16 is where the term "Armageddon" appears vividly.


What will be the next war?

Dr. Reagan: Well, that is a good question and, Bill, this is where you play a very, very major role. Most Bible prophecy experts including such well known people as Joel Rosenberg all believe that the next great prophetic war in the Middle East will be the war that is outlined in Ezekiel 38 and 39 which portrays Russia leading a coalition of Muslim nations against Israel. But, in your book Isralestine, Psalms 83 points out that couldn't be the next prophetic war in the Middle East. I think you really plowed some new ground when you wrote that book and made that point.

There are several reasons that you gave, but two that I would mention that are very important to me is that in Ezekiel 38:8,11,14, three times it says that the Russian-led invasion of Israel will not occur until Israel is living securely in un-walled villages. Well, Bill, you know as well as I do that Israel is not living securely today and they're certainly not in what we would call un-walled villages. In fact, the Israelis are in the process of building a 400 mile long wall right down the middle of their country to try to defend themselves against terrorist. Israel is anything but secure today. So that condition just doesn't exist.

Another thing that's interesting that you pointed out in your book is that the war of Ezekiel 38 and 39 will have certain specified allies that come down with Russia, and none of those allies have a common border with Israel. Now, why in the world would there be a Russian invasion of Israel with Muslim allies and none of those allies be a single country with a common border with Israel? Jordan is not mentioned, Lebanon is not mentioned, Syria is not mentioned, Egypt is not mentioned, and Gaza is not mentioned.

In your book, which I consider a real important book where you talk about Psalm 83, you point out that there has to be a war before the Ezekiel 38 and 39 War, a war in which Israel will defeat all of the Muslim nations with which it has a common boundary. Your theory is that this is the war that is mentioned in Psalm 83. And, I'll tell you what, I think you are right on target. I think the Psalm 83 War will be the next prophetic war in the Middle East. I think Israel, as you say in your book, will conquer all of those Muslim nations that have a common boundary with it. Israel will be greatly expanded in size, in power, in influence, in wealth, and then it will be living in security. Then it will be living in un-walled villages and then it will have fulfilled all the conditions for the war of Ezekiel 38 and 39 when Russia will come down with an outer circle of Muslim nations that do not have a common boundary with Israel.

If anyone hasn't read Isralestine, they need to read it right away, because I think the Psalm 83 War of Extermination is probably going to be the war that is going to lead to the next fulfillment of prophecy — the destruction of Damascus.

This will most likely happen when all of Israel's bordering nations come against Israel. Hezbollah has its 40,000 missiles and Syria has it's very sophisticated missiles. Syria will be shooting those only 125 miles. It is not going to be shooting them a thousand miles like Saddam Hussein was doing. And, plus, they are very sophisticated missiles. I think the only hope that Israel will have is to resort to the use of nuclear weapons to defend itself. I think it will blow Damascus in Syria off the face of the map, just as it is prophesied in two places in the Old Testament (Isa. 17:1-14; Jer. 49:23-27). When that happens, I think the whole Arab world will go into a panic. I think they will turn to their natural ally Russia, and ask Russia to come to their aid.

Bill Salus: Today in Israel, actually since June, they have been preparing for a multi-front war with Iran, Hezbollah, Syria and Hamas. What we are talking about is a very high probability that the prophetic war that you are referencing in Psalm 83 and the dramatic prophetic event of Isaiah 17:1 which is the destruction of Damascus could happen in the very near future.

David, your thoughts on this are a little bit speculative, so we don't want to spend too much time on it, but because I believe that we could be talking about the next prophetic headline in the Middle East, let's spend just a second on it before we get into these other wars that follow.

If Israel strikes Iran preemptively because of their nuclear sites, it is likely don't you believe, that Israel is justified in preparing for war with Hezbollah, Syria, and Hamas and Iran and that there is going to be a retaliation?

Dr. Reagan: Well, absolutely! A preemptive attack would be justified, just as it was in the War of 1967 when the Israelis finally decided, "Hey, we are about to be attacked on all fronts. If we just sit here and wait for the attack, we don't have a hope." And so, they launched a preemptive attack that was the key to winning the 1967 War. They are going to have to launch a preemptive attack here as they cannot simply sit by on the sidelines and wait for the missiles to start coming.

Most people don't realize how small Israel is. We are talking about a country only 75 miles wide and about 300 miles long. They just can't sit there and wait for these things to come. For example, they cannot wait for Iran to get a nuclear weapon. The Iranians have made it very clear the moment they get one they are going to use it. All they need is one. They just drop it on Tel Aviv and that is going to take care of the whole country. They don't have to hit it with multiple nuclear weapons.

Bill Salus: As far back as August 2008, the Kuwaiti Daily reported that chemical components had made their way from North Korea through Iran, through Syria, and into Hezbollah's hands. We have said they already have 40,000 rockets.

Carrie Hart, a friend of mine in Israel who is the Jerusalem correspondent for Jewish Voice Television, just emailed me the other day and said that Israel in January 2010 is going to be preparing a massive nationwide chemical and biological defense drill for their whole society because they are very concerned about this happening.


Will diplomacy make a difference?

Bill Salus: Do you believe there is the potential that this whole international thrust to try to trade land for peace and create this two state solution that something is going to blast out in the Middle East? Also, Ahmadinejad just said recently he is ready to start talking with Obama, however, he doesn't want to talk about the nuclear programs. He says there are plenty of other things to talk about. Do you think that that there could be a temporary (it would of course have to be temporary because we know Psalm 83 is coming) peace that could be crafted through these diplomatic efforts?

Dr. Reagan: I don't think so. It could happen, but I don't think that is a high probability, because I think that Israel is going to have to attack Iran. Any other nation in the world would do that. If any nation in the world, like Canada for instance, was saying as soon as they had developed an atomic weapon they we're going to drop it on Washington, D.C., would we sit there and twiddle out thumbs and talk about it? I don't think so! I think we would take immediate action to make sure that did not happen.

The whole world is so hypocritical when it comes to Israel. The world will condemn Israel for doing exactly what every other nation in the world would do. If we had somebody shooting rockets across the Rio Grande River into Texas, how long do you think we would put up with that before we invaded Mexico and put an end to it? And, yet, we say to Israel, "Oh, you must not go into Lebanon and you must not go into Gaza. You must be patient and you must negotiate." It is absolute nonsense!

Bill Salus: I couldn't agree more, David. I also don't think they will grab for the temporary peace. I think that it has gotten too far and too serious for that now.

Dr. Reagan: One thing, Bill, that I don't understand is how people can ignore your thesis. I mean, take a person like Joel Rosenberg who is an outstanding thinker about the Middle East, and yet I was at a conference recently where he was asked specifically about Psalm 83 and he just dismissed it and said he didn't think it was all that important. He went on to say that he felt like Israel was relatively living at peace. How can people ignore the fact that Israel is not living in peace and not living in un-walled cities? I just don't see how they can ignore this.

Bill Salus: Well, that is why I am grateful that the Lord used me to bring this contribution into the arena. So many, many people are reading the book now and starting to do their own studies and form their own thesis about it. The war does seem extremely near and people need to be paying attention to it.

Dr. Reagan: How else do you explain the absence from the Ezekiel 38-39 nations of any Muslim allies that have a common border with Israel? You think they are just going to sit there and be calm and do nothing at all while Russia invades with all these other Muslim nations? It doesn't make any sense!

Bill Salus: You are right. It's not like Russia is not getting into the mix even with these inner circle of nations. They recently received a huge contract for exporting military technologies to Saudi Arabia.

Dr. Reagan: That's right.

Bill Salus: Saudi Arabia would be under the banner of the Ishmaelites in Psalm 83:6-8. What is also interesting to me is that these contracts that Russia is developing with Saudi Arabia are also recently being made with Syria. When Israel defeats those nations, that is going to upset Russia quite a bit because who knows where they will be in the midst of collecting monies from those contracts. Instead, Israel is likely going to confiscate those weapons.

Dr. Reagan: The other thing that is very interesting, too, is the way in which Egypt and Saudi Arabia and nations like that — moderate Muslim nations to some extent that at least don't have the kind of government like Iran does — are evidently scared to death of Iran at this point and are giving tacit approval to Israel to launch an attack by giving them fly over rights and letting them send nuclear subs through the Suez Canal. It is pretty obvious that they are saying loud and clear to Iran that they are going to cooperate with the Israelis in this attack because they are as scared of Iran as the Israelis are.

Bill Salus: Right! It goes back to the defeat of Saddam Hussein. Iran has for a long time had their eye on the Islamic crescent being under their dominion.

Dr. Reagan: That's right.

Bill Salus: The Fertile Crescent Arab nations are concerned that Iran's nuclear aspirations are more far reaching then just taking out Israel and wiping it off the map.

Should the Church still be here during Psalm 83's fulfillment, we would become an excellent witnessing tool to the world.


In the next segment, Bill and I will be discussing the timing of the Rapture and the United States' role in relation to the first end times war.

Monday, October 26, 2009

Why The Creation Matters

Nathan JonesPDFBy Nathan Jones

"Teaching why Evolution has got it wrong is a waste of time. What does it matter? Move on to another topic." - A Fellow Christian

Why does believing in the Creation matter? Why indeed should any Christian spend time showing how Evolution has got it wrong and the Bible's account of the Creation has got it right? These are very good questions.

Dr. Jobe MartinAs I come to the last interview in this series concerning Evolution and Creation, I leave the very important answer to the questions above to Dr. Jobe Martin, a former dentist, professor and Evolutionist. Having clearly seen God's eternal power and divine nature from what has been made (Rom. 1:20), Dr. Martin came to faith in Jesus Christ and a trust in the biblical account of the six days of Creation. He and his wife Jenna Dee have since formed Biblical Discipleship Ministries based in Rockwall, Texas to teach on campuses, classrooms and churches that we can trust the Bible's account of the Creation and Jesus as Savior.


Why is it so important to believe the biblical account of Creation?

I think the first point is: who determines truth, is it God or is it man?

If it is God, then where do we find His truth? In His Word it says, "His Word is truth" (Jn. 17:17). It is that truth that will set us free. It is that truth that sanctifies us.

We could go to the Creation account in Genesis and say, "Well, you know, we can't really take that literally." If we do that, then how much of the rest of the Bible do we say, "I don't really have to take that literally?" And that moves right into Bible prophecy. If we don't take those early chapters of Genesis literally, we then don't have to take Bible prophecy literally. All of a sudden we have wishy-washy ideas about the Bible. But, we can believe those early chapters of Genesis.

Jesus is the Creator. If Jesus is not the Creator and He didn't do it like He says He did it, and Genesis is in His Word, well then, how can we believe Him when He tells us He died for our sins? No, I don't think so.

Doubting the Creation account I think is one of the reasons we are losing so many of our kids. Our kids are raised in homes where Dad and Mom believe in Jesus, but when asked if they believe in the Creation they reply, "Well, no, we are Theistic Evolutionist, or we are Progressive Creationists." All of a sudden our young people are saying, "Oh, I guess you can't really trust the Bible as it is read in just the common ordinary way." We are losing them. We are losing up to 88% published figures by the end of four years of college!

It is absolutely crucial that we understand the Creation and realize that almost every false worldview is based on Evolution. Without Evolution you don't have a grasp on reality. Evolution robs God of His glory and steals His praise. God says through the Bible, "I created and here is how I did it. I did it in 6 days." But we say, "I don't think I believe that."

It is also absolutely crucial that we understand that God's Word is the truth. If we say the Word is God's truth as we should as Christians, well then let's believe it from page one. We can do this. We can trust in Him. There is no science that is testable, verifiable, experimentally reproducible (unless it is falsifying science) that discredits anything this book say. Not any! There is not one scientific experiment anywhere that is a true experiment, not based on assumptions that are false, that will discredit and disprove the Bible. We can trust it.

As a matter of fact, there was one person present when the Creation occurred, and that was God Almighty Himself. Actually, we have a triple eyewitness — God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. He says all we need is two to make it right.

If you don't know Jesus as your Savior, I would encourage you get a Bible and start reading at the book of John. Realize, okay, here is what the Bible says and then just pray as I once did, "Lord Jesus, you show me what's true, and if it is true I am going to believe it." Then realize you are a sinner. We are all sinners. Maybe you are an Evolutionist or a New Ager, or maybe you think there is no such thing as sin, but you are a sinner. We do things that are evil and go against what God says. He says that even while we're sinners Christ died for us (Rom. 5:8).

I would encourage you to put your faith and trust in Jesus and believe in Him. Invite Him to be your Savior. Ask Him to forgive your sins. Receive Him as your Savior. He is your resurrected Lord. He is your resurrected Savior and Creator, and He loves you.


Resources

The Evolution of a CreationistThe Evolution of a Creationist Book by Dr. Jobe Martin:
This fascinating book describes Dr. Jobe Martin's personal journey from an evolution-trained scientist to a Bible-believing creationist. Dr. Martin examines many of the claims and theories of prominent evolutionists, comparing their often incredible, inconsistent, pseudo-scientific explanations of origins to the clear and simple description of the Creation as depicted in the Bible.

Creation ProclaimsCreation Proclaims Video by Dr. Jobe Martin:
Come face-to-face with some of the world's most fascinating creatures! You'll discover how Creation proclaims the character, majesty, power and, glory of our Creator God. In each creature feature, you'll learn how God is reaching out to mankind by making Himself known in unmistakable ways.

God of WondersGod of Wonders Video by Eternal Productions:
A feature-length Discovery-quality documentary without the evolutionary bias. Stunning nature footage, scientific insights and Scriptures combine to reveal the wonders of our Creator as observed throughout His creation.

Friday, October 23, 2009

Evolutionists Migrate?

Nathan JonesPDFBy Nathan Jones

Have you seen the seriously funny Ben Stein movie Expelled? If so, remember near the very end Stein questions one of the leading evolutionists Richard Dawkins and he reveals on his own, "Well, I think life probably must of happened by intelligent design from aliens from another planet." Wow! I could only sit there stunned, because after all, Dawkins is the most verbally hostile antagonist towards the Bible and the Creation account, writing such books as The God Delusion and The Blind Watchmaker.

Dr. Jobe MartinTo help in understanding this new migration of an Evolutionist towards Intelligent Design (ID), I went to Dr. Jobe Martin, former dentist, professor and Evolutionist. Having clearly seen God's eternal power and divine nature from what has been made (Rom. 1:20), Dr. Martin came to faith in Jesus Christ and a trust in the biblical account of the six days of Creation. He and his wife Jenna Dee have since formed Biblical Discipleship Ministries based in Rockwall, Texas to teach on campuses, classrooms and churches that we can trust the Bible's account of the Creation and Jesus as Savior.


With Dawkins slipping he's a closet Intelligent Design (ID) supporter, are we starting to see a migration of Evolutionists from believing in Evolution to believing in Intelligent Design?

You hear about life coming from aliens more of the time now from Evolutionists, but that doesn't answer the real question. The real question is: "Where did life come from?" Or, "How did it get started out there in the cosmos?" We know it must have started somewhere. Shifting to ID, though, just removes the question from where we can test it. So, they say ID to put the real question out there somewhere that we can't reach. Well, how do you test how life started? You know you can't get out there to see where it came from.

This shift illustrates the desperation of Evolutionist in their current arguments. In the movie Expelled another one of the scientists says, "Life came in on molecules riding on crystals." Well, I have to ask, "Where did the molecules come from? Where did the crystals come from? Where did the life come from in the molecules riding on the crystals?" Their answers really don't answer any of those questions.

When you realize you can't go far enough back to answer your questions over the origins of life, you just finally have to come and bow down before your Creator and say, "Okay, Lord, I have looked at all of this and there is just no way it makes sense apart from you." And that is what God wants us to do. That is what General Revelation is. We study the Creation and what God has made, and that should bring us to our knees before God.

What do we do next? We go into the Bible to find out about this God. That was kind of my life. I looked at everything and first thought Evolution was true, but then I realized, "Hey, wait a minute, maybe Evolution isn't true. What am I going to do?" The Bible had the answers I was looking for. General Revelation concerning the Creation should take us to Special Revelation or Specific Revelation which is the Word of God. That will lead us to redemption.

It can be very difficult when you have invested so much of your life into a particular philosophy or theory, even to the point of saying it is no longer a theory but a proven fact, to try to back off from that. It is very difficult. It is the worst for geologists. I just love those guys, but they are so steeped in the idea that those rock layers had to take billions of years. Praise God some of them get the point, but they are tough.

One of the scientific evidences concerning geology that has impressed me is from incredible catastrophes like Mount Saint Helens exploding in 1980. From that eruption we have learned first-hand how rapidly some things can happen that people have argued must take millions of years to happen. For example, look at polystrata fossils. Dead trees on the top of Spirit Lake began to float with the root end down as they got water logged, then they dropped to the bottom. Five days later or so another one drops to the bottom, but now some sediments filled in so it is up higher. Geologists used to say that it takes thousands of years of layering an ancient forest, then an ancient sea, and then another ancient forest and then another ancient sea. No, we are watching it happen at Spirit Lake, and now 29 years later we're seeing the whole organization of polystrata fossils.

When you look at the evidence, though, the hard true scientific evidence and not the evidence based on assumptions, you are left with only one conclusion. You end up concluding that there has got to be a Designer and He's got to be all powerful and all knowing. It has to be the God revealed in the Bible.


Resources

The Evolution of a CreationistThe Evolution of a Creationist Book by Dr. Jobe Martin:
This fascinating book describes Dr. Jobe Martin's personal journey from an evolution-trained scientist to a Bible-believing creationist. Dr. Martin examines many of the claims and theories of prominent evolutionists, comparing their often incredible, inconsistent, pseudo-scientific explanations of origins to the clear and simple description of the Creation as depicted in the Bible.

Creation ProclaimsCreation Proclaims Video by Dr. Jobe Martin:
Come face-to-face with some of the world's most fascinating creatures! You'll discover how Creation proclaims the character, majesty, power and, glory of our Creator God. In each creature feature, you'll learn how God is reaching out to mankind by making Himself known in unmistakable ways.

God of WondersGod of Wonders Video by Eternal Productions:
A feature-length Discovery-quality documentary without the evolutionary bias. Stunning nature footage, scientific insights and Scriptures combine to reveal the wonders of our Creator as observed throughout His creation.

Thursday, October 22, 2009

Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution: Humans

Nathan JonesPDFBy Nathan Jones

Did you know that there are creatures so incredibly complex that their very nature defies the concept of Evolution? To study these animals is to know with absolute surety that they must have been created by a designer.

Dr. Jobe MartinTo help identify the most complex of all the creatures that defy Evolution, I went to Dr. Jobe Martin, former dentist, professor and Evolutionist. Having clearly seen God's eternal power and divine nature from what has been made (Rom. 1:20), Dr. Martin came to faith in Jesus Christ and a trust in the biblical account of the six days of Creation. He and his wife Jenna Dee have since formed Biblical Discipleship Ministries based in Rockwall, Texas to teach on campuses, classrooms and churches that we can trust the Bible's account of the Creation and Jesus as Savior.


Dr. Martin, you have produced a video series called "Incredible Creatures that Defy Evolution" and another called "Creation Proclaims." Incredible creatures that defy Evolution — could you show us the most complex of those creatures?

We'd have to talk about the human body as the most complex of all creatures.

Let's talk just about the eye for a moment. Even Darwin recognized how fantastic the human eye is. Darwin once said, "To suppose that the eye with all of its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus for different distances, for admitting different amounts of light and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."

What else can you say about that? It is. I mean, the way the eye takes in the light. Even today we can't make binoculars or glasses that can duplicate what our eyes can do. We can be focused up, focused long, focused short.


Human Eye

Eyes are designed so that even though we have two eyes we can only look at one thing at a time, and it is a small amount that you can really focus on. Everything else is out of focus sort of, in the sense that everything you look at is in exactly the same focus, such as when you are reading a page and all of the words would be right in front of you. So, we have to be able to focus on everything we see that way.

When we walk you balance out the horizon with your eyes. God made two special muscles that function involuntarily. As you walk your horizon stays the same out there, because when you turn your head the horizon does not wobble because the eyes are adjusting to this naturally as you walk. These kind of automatic things are built into everything — ears, eyes, nose, mouth, teeth — everything that God made.

The human body does something else amazing. When you get a cut, it keeps you from bleeding to death by clotting. Why doesn't your blood clot inside your body? It only clots when you cut, and here you go — a natural Band-Aid. If you have some pathological condition that clots your blood internally, you've got problems. But, that doesn't really happen. Think of all the billions of people and how many on any given day would have a clot in the wrong place if that were the case. We'd all be dead!


In your book called The Evolution of a Creationist you wrote about the Anthropic Principle. What is that?

The Anthropic Principle is basically about how our Earth was made with mankind in mind. This means the Earth is just the right size to produce just the right amount of gravity. It is just the right distance from the moon. The moon is just the right size in relationship to planet Earth so that the tidal patterns work right, among other things. Our Earth-Moon system is exactly the right distance from the sun. The sun is exactly the right size so that it produces exactly the right amount of heat so we don't burn up or freeze up. The air is made just right so that we can breathe.

When you just look at the constants in nature, there is no room for error in there. That this is just an amazing series of circumstances of coincidences, or that it took billions and billions of accidents all working together to work, or some explosion caused everything to work out absolutely perfectly to create and sustain life — that doesn't even make sense to me. It used to, but it doesn't anymore.


Resources

The Evolution of a CreationistThe Evolution of a Creationist Book by Dr. Jobe Martin:
This fascinating book describes Dr. Jobe Martin's personal journey from an evolution-trained scientist to a Bible-believing creationist. Dr. Martin examines many of the claims and theories of prominent evolutionists, comparing their often incredible, inconsistent, pseudo-scientific explanations of origins to the clear and simple description of the Creation as depicted in the Bible.

Creation ProclaimsCreation Proclaims Video by Dr. Jobe Martin:
Come face-to-face with some of the world's most fascinating creatures! You'll discover how Creation proclaims the character, majesty, power and, glory of our Creator God. In each creature feature, you'll learn how God is reaching out to mankind by making Himself known in unmistakable ways.

God of WondersGod of Wonders Video by Eternal Productions:
A feature-length Discovery-quality documentary without the evolutionary bias. Stunning nature footage, scientific insights and Scriptures combine to reveal the wonders of our Creator as observed throughout His creation.

Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution: Snakes, Slugs & Owls

Nathan JonesPDFBy Nathan Jones

Did you know that there are creatures so incredibly complex that their very nature defies the concept of Evolution? To study these animals is to know with absolute surety that they must have been created by a designer.

Dr. Jobe MartinTo help identify some of those incredible creatures that defy Evolution, I went to Dr. Jobe Martin, former dentist, professor and Evolutionist. Having clearly seen God's eternal power and divine nature from what has been made (Rom. 1:20), Dr. Martin came to faith in Jesus Christ and a trust in the biblical account of the six days of Creation. He and his wife Jenna Dee have since formed Biblical Discipleship Ministries based in Rockwall, Texas to teach on campuses, classrooms and churches that we can trust the Bible's account of the Creation and Jesus as Savior.


Dr. Martin, you have produced a video series called "Incredible Creatures that Defy Evolution" and another called "Creation Proclaims." Incredible creatures that defy Evolution — could you show us some more of those?


Snake

A third incredible creature that defies Evolution is the snake. In my new video I had a snake around my neck at some point. We had a python and a boa constrictor, both of them very big snakes. We also had a Mojave Desert Rattlesnake, which is supposed to be the most vicious type of rattlesnake.

The python for instance, around its lips in-between the scales, it has sensory organs that can sense the heat in a live animal that they want to eat. Those organs are so sensitive that it can be a pitch black night and it can go right up that whatever it is it wants to eat and strike it, and it never misses. And yet, it can't see a thing. It is just the heat sensors in its lips that tell it exactly what to do.

You have seen a snake and their forked tongue comes out? Well, they don't have to open their mouth to do that. There is a groove in the lower jam that lets them stick out their tongue because they are crawling around in the dirt. If they had to open their mouth to get their tongue out, which is sensing and picking up the molecules of things, they would fill their mouth up with dirt all the time. And so, God made them so they can get that tongue out there. When they bring it back in they touch it to an organ on the roof of their mouth called the Jacobson's organ, and it tells them exactly which molecules they are tasting and they can follow a prey, just by tasting the dust and stuff as they get toward it. It is miraculous things!


Nudibranch Sea Slug

A fourth incredible creatures that defies Evolution, and I have it on this new "Creation Proclaims" video, is the nudibranch sea slug. These things are amazing! They have psychedelic colors and are beautiful things.

It will eat an anemone or another sea creature that has little stinging cells that they shoot like little darts. And, it will eat this thing, but it doesn't set off the darts. It will digest what it wants to eat. Anything else that touches this anemone will set off these darts, but not the nudibranch. So, it eats the whole thing, digests the food part, takes those darts, transfers them through tubes out to its own back and into its gill structures, and then it uses the defense mechanism of the animal that it ate as its own defense mechanism. It cannibalizes this animal to use. It recycles these stinging cells and it potentiates them. The darts are stronger once they get out through the back of the nudibranch, moreso than when they were in the anemone. It is miraculous thing!


Great Grey Owl

A fifth incredible creature that defies Evolution is the owl. An owl is silent when it flies. How can this be when with all the other birds you can hear the flapping of their wings?

The owl is going to find their prey mainly by hearing. They have a circle of feathers around their face that are special feathers that channel the sound into their ear holes. Their ear holes are not the things up on top of their heads, rather their ear holes are right under their eyes, and they're not at the same level. They get the sound in at 1/30th of a millionth of a second at a different rate, and that tells them exactly where their prey is.

If an owl's wings made noise they couldn't hear and gauge sound. A Great Gray Owl can hear a mouse crawling around under two feet of snow. There can be a mouse under two feet of snow and it can hear it! It can't see it, but it will dive down right on it.

Owl's have this little fringe of tiny little hairs that go up the sides of the feathers. God made those little hairs deflect the wind coming across them in such a way that the owl flies with silent flight. And, where does that come from? If there isn't a God that designed that and made that, how would evolution produce that? I don't see any way.


Resources

The Evolution of a CreationistThe Evolution of a Creationist Book by Dr. Jobe Martin:
This fascinating book describes Dr. Jobe Martin's personal journey from an evolution-trained scientist to a Bible-believing creationist. Dr. Martin examines many of the claims and theories of prominent evolutionists, comparing their often incredible, inconsistent, pseudo-scientific explanations of origins to the clear and simple description of the Creation as depicted in the Bible.

Creation ProclaimsCreation Proclaims Video by Dr. Jobe Martin:
Come face-to-face with some of the world's most fascinating creatures! You'll discover how Creation proclaims the character, majesty, power and, glory of our Creator God. In each creature feature, you'll learn how God is reaching out to mankind by making Himself known in unmistakable ways.

God of WondersGod of Wonders Video by Eternal Productions:
A feature-length Discovery-quality documentary without the evolutionary bias. Stunning nature footage, scientific insights and Scriptures combine to reveal the wonders of our Creator as observed throughout His creation.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009

Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution: Giraffe

Nathan JonesPDFBy Nathan Jones

Did you know that there are creatures so incredibly complex that their very nature defies the concept of Evolution? To study these animals is to know with absolute surety that they must have been created by a designer.

Dr. Jobe MartinTo help identify some of those incredible creatures that defy Evolution, I went to Dr. Jobe Martin, former dentist, professor and Evolutionist. Having clearly seen God's eternal power and divine nature from what has been made (Rom. 1:20), Dr. Martin came to faith in Jesus Christ and a trust in the biblical account of the six days of Creation. He and his wife Jenna Dee have since formed Biblical Discipleship Ministries based in Rockwall, Texas to teach on campuses, classrooms and churches that we can trust the Bible's account of the Creation and Jesus as Savior.


Dr. Martin, you have produced a video series called "Incredible Creatures that Defy Evolution" and another called "Creation Proclaims." Incredible creatures that defy Evolution — could you show us another one of those?

A second incredible creature that defies Evolution which I really enjoy talking about is the giraffe. A bull giraffe can be 18 feet tall! It has a huge heart to pump the blood up that long skinny neck against gravity. The heart of a bull giraffe can weigh up to 25 pounds. That is the size of a big turkey! It can be almost 2 1/2 feet long. It is a powerful pump and when it squeezes it shoots that blood up that long skinny neck against gravity.

Giraffe

The giraffe has got a problem when he bends his head down to get a drink of water. With all that blood the heart squeezes, well, the blood goes zoom and blows his brains out through his ears. He is now dead. And, so, he must be thinking, "I've got a problem. When I get a drink of water I blow my brains out. Okay, I better evolve something here to fix this." Well, of course, dead animals don't evolve. But anyway, it doesn't blow his brains out. Why? Because, as the blood comes down there is like little spigot — little valves — in the artery that goes up the neck which close. When the giraffe's head is down, there is also a sponge under the brain and it gently expands to protect the brain so it doesn't blow out.

Now, the giraffe is getting his drink of water and he sees a lion coming up. "I've got to get out of here, he is going to eat me." The giraffe jumps up, runs about three steps, and passes out — not enough oxygen to the brain. The lion eats him. He says, "I have another problem. I pass out when I get up too fast and so the lion eats me." Well, dead animals don't evolve. They can't fix it. But, the giraffe doesn't pass out, because as he raises his head up our Creator the Lord Jesus has made it so those valves open up and the sponge under the brain gently squeezes that last pump of oxygenated blood up into his brain and he is doing just fine. Only God could create that.

The textbooks still say that the giraffe got his long neck because all the food had run out and he was trying to eat up there in the trees. And I am saying, "Okay, good, but what about Mrs. Giraffe? She is two feet shorter. What about baby giraffe? If all the food is gone and he's got to stretch up there to eat out of the top of the tree, what is baby giraffe going to eat after they are weaned from their mama?" It doesn't make any sense at all. Maybe Millions of years between meals?!

What we have here is irreducible complexity. It's like when we reduce fractions down and you can't reduce them down anymore. Complexity requires all the different parts that are needed working together perfectly, so they are irreducible. You can't take them down anymore. They need all these parts, and all the parts have to be fully functional. You can't have a partially formed heart, or a partially formed valve, or a partially formed sponge. They have to all be there. They have to all be fully functional, or you don't have a giraffe.


Resources

The Evolution of a CreationistThe Evolution of a Creationist Book by Dr. Jobe Martin:
This fascinating book describes Dr. Jobe Martin's personal journey from an evolution-trained scientist to a Bible-believing creationist. Dr. Martin examines many of the claims and theories of prominent evolutionists, comparing their often incredible, inconsistent, pseudo-scientific explanations of origins to the clear and simple description of the Creation as depicted in the Bible.

Creation ProclaimsCreation Proclaims Video by Dr. Jobe Martin:
Come face-to-face with some of the world's most fascinating creatures! You'll discover how Creation proclaims the character, majesty, power and, glory of our Creator God. In each creature feature, you'll learn how God is reaching out to mankind by making Himself known in unmistakable ways.

God of WondersGod of Wonders Video by Eternal Productions:
A feature-length Discovery-quality documentary without the evolutionary bias. Stunning nature footage, scientific insights and Scriptures combine to reveal the wonders of our Creator as observed throughout His creation.

Monday, October 19, 2009

Incredible Creatures That Defy Evolution: Bombardier Beetle

Nathan JonesPDFBy Nathan Jones

Did you know that there are creatures so incredibly complex that their very nature defies the concept of Evolution? To study these animals is to know with absolute surety that they must have been created by a designer.

Dr. Jobe MartinTo help identify some of those incredible creatures that defy Evolution, I went to Dr. Jobe Martin, former dentist, professor and Evolutionist. Having clearly seen God's eternal power and divine nature from what has been made (Rom. 1:20), Dr. Martin came to faith in Jesus Christ and a trust in the biblical account of the six days of Creation. He and his wife Jenna Dee have since formed Biblical Discipleship Ministries based in Rockwall, Texas to teach on campuses, classrooms and churches that we can trust the Bible's account of the Creation and Jesus as Savior.


Dr. Martin, you have produced a video series called "Incredible Creatures that Defy Evolution" and another called "Creation Proclaims." Incredible creatures that defy Evolution — could you show us one of those?

When I became a believer in the Lord Jesus, I went from being an Agnostic/Zen Buddhist/Evolutionist to being a Theistic Evolutionist. I still had the Big Bang and the billions of years. I then gave a lecture at Baylor Dental College on the evolution of the tooth from fish scales, and some of my students challenged me. And so, we started this study and they wanted me to study Creation Science. I was reading my Bible while we were studying the assumptions that the Evolutionist makes, which I discovered aren't valid when talking about origins. We were also studying animals.

I was a Biology major and so could appreciate the first animal these students called to my attention (this was 1971) called the bombardier beetle. It is just a little 1/2 inch bug. What we have here in Texas is a black variety. They actually shoot their enemies. If a frog or a spider or hop-toad gets close to them, they are going to shoot them with fiery hot acid. They do this by mixing some chemicals.

Bombardier Beetle

As a matter of fact, when the bombardier beetle first mixes these chemicals the chemicals won't do anything, like they are in neutral. That would mean the beetle doesn't have a defense mechanism, and if evolution is true and the beetle was trying to evolve alongside all of the spiders that would eat it, it wouldn't have survived long enough to be here. But, the bombardier beetle has another little chemical factory down inside itself that makes exactly and precisely the right chemical catalyst so that when it squirts that into this solution you get this violent reaction.

Now, if the bombardier beetle didn't have even more equipment, well he'd just splattered himself, and of course splattered bug pieces cannot evolve. That would be the end of the bombardier beetle. But, we have him because he has an asbestos-like lined firing chamber. Even if he had that — boom! — he is gone if he doesn't have somewhere for the explosion to go. The bombardier beetle does has twin tail tubes which he can aim those tubes out the back, out the side, and out the front.

When you hear the bombardier beetle shoot it makes like a pop sound. But, that isn't exactly what it is. The pop was put in slow motion and it really is sequential booms. Why the sequence was also figured out. The beetle has these tiny little feet, and if he shoots let's say out the side and he goes bang and it isn't small bangs like that, his feet couldn't hold on and he would blow himself right out of the picture. So, our Lord the Creator made him so that he could shoot in any direction.

These mechanisms in the bombardier beetle defy evolution because there is no way he could evolve little bits and pieces at a time. He would be dead every time. He is irreducibly complex. He needs all of his parts. They all have to work together and they all have to be fully functional. And, he couldn't develop this complex mechanism over millions of years, because he would have been eaten into extinction long before then, or he would have blow himself up. So, either way, there is no way he could evolve. In that sense, I think it most certainly defies evolution.


Resources

The Evolution of a CreationistThe Evolution of a Creationist Book by Dr. Jobe Martin:
This fascinating book describes Dr. Jobe Martin's personal journey from an evolution-trained scientist to a Bible-believing creationist. Dr. Martin examines many of the claims and theories of prominent evolutionists, comparing their often incredible, inconsistent, pseudo-scientific explanations of origins to the clear and simple description of the Creation as depicted in the Bible.

Creation ProclaimsCreation Proclaims Video by Dr. Jobe Martin:
Come face-to-face with some of the world's most fascinating creatures! You'll discover how Creation proclaims the character, majesty, power and, glory of our Creator God. In each creature feature, you'll learn how God is reaching out to mankind by making Himself known in unmistakable ways.

God of WondersGod of Wonders Video by Eternal Productions:
A feature-length Discovery-quality documentary without the evolutionary bias. Stunning nature footage, scientific insights and Scriptures combine to reveal the wonders of our Creator as observed throughout His creation.