Friday, May 11, 2012

Romans 1 and Society: Dark Agendas

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What causes the underlying thinking behind some of today's most liberal agendas?

On Monday, April 23rd I was interviewed by host Matt Buff of the Rapture Ready Radio show "Buffed Up Radio," broadcast over BlogTalkRadio.

During the 45 minute live show we talked about how April was a tough month for Christians. April held the Day of Silence for Homosexual Students, Pot Head Day, and Earth Day bringing out the green police. We also discussed the Christianity Under Attack Conference and DVDs, the rise in Autism, and the motives behind some of today's most liberal agendas. Read and listen in!


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The Day of Hypocrisy

Matt Buff: Nathan, we so far have talked a lot about the decline of America and around the world. I want to continue to go down that path and then really spin it up with the prophetic angle with some information that you have on your blog and on your website at lamblion.com. Folks, on the website if you go to the upper far right there you will see Nathan and Dr. Reagan standing there and under him you'll see links to the blog and the news pages. Definitely go there because Dr. David Reagan and Nathan Jones are constantly putting new material up there on what is going on in the world, which we are going to get into that here, too.

The Day of Silence held in support of the homosexual agenda happened on the same week in April as Weed Day, so I guess they coordinated that correctly because it is very easy to be silent when you are high.

Nathan Jones: Is there any correlation, because I noticed Earth Day was about on the same day? What's up with that?

Matt Buff: Oh, that was just a miserable day. I was in a bad mood all day. Everywhere I went I saw the Day of Silence and the high stuff for Weed Day and the green police for Earth Day out and about telling me what to do. They tell me to take a shorter shower with the lights off. You know, I don't need them getting into my business like that. But, I don't see when going to their various websites any coordination. I just want to say that George Soros is probably behind it all. When you follow the money behind these events, you could probably go to one source.

The Day of Silence was for homosexual kids who are in school to not speak during the whole day. Basically, this causes a mass disruption in the school systems. Unfortunately for them and fortunately for the rest of us, a lot of people didn't know about this day, though it is picking up some traction. Still, teachers aren't putting up with this too much, for all they want is for their students to go to school and be quiet and learn.

The gay agenda says they are silent on this day because they are trying to stop the bullying of homosexuals. Speaking of bullying, news showed there is this white guy who recently got beat up by 20 black guys who claim they did it for Trayvon Martin and the man's currently right now in the hospital. I put his picture up on Facebook. The liberal retaliation can be either violent or disruptive, and this Day of Silence is another one that is disruptive.

I have kids. If you want to handle a bully, you beat him up and make him respect you. Well, the gay agenda is trying to stem bullying by disrupting everybody else's life instead of dealing with the actual issue.

Nathan Jones: Isn't that the core of the homosexual activist strategy, that they make life difficult for everybody? They can be bullies and force you into the courts to accept their version of what morality is. They can take away your rights to share Christianity on the street corners during their parades. But, heaven forbid, you say anything to them and you're in trouble. It's purely a hypocritical strategy that they run.


Darkened Hearts, Darkest Agendas

Nathan Jones: Between Earth Day and Weed Day and the homosexual agenda, you know what this all makes me think of, Matt? Romans 1. Romans 1 explains exactly what is going on here. Is it okay if I read a little bit of that?

Matt Buff: Yes, please do, because the Bible is what we should always want tie back into. The Bible has an answer for everything. And, sure enough, the reasons behind these various agendas are explained well in the Bible.

Nathan Jones: Verse 18 starts,"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. Since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities — his eternal power and divine nature — have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."

In other words, all of creation in its complexity proves there is a God. But, the carnal man rejects God. The passage continues, "they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened." And do you know what, Matt, that's exactly what we are seeing today — futile thinking and dark hearts.

In response to the carnal man's futile thinking, what they did is they, "exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like man." In other words, they turned away from God to, "serve created things rather than the Creator." They turned on God and now they are worshipping nature. They are nature worshippers. When one's futile minds start thinking rebelliously like that, then this is the result morally.

Verse 26 continues about how God in response, "gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another." The Scripture goes on to talk about how the due penalty of their perversion, possibly resulting in the diseases that they get.

Romans 1 goes on to talk about the depraved mind in verse 29, "They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters…" The list goes on and on and on, concluding with verse 32; "Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them." Earth Day, Weed Day, the homosexual agenda — it can all be tied into this rejection of God which Romans 1 teaches us about.

Matt Buff: Amen! That's exactly right. That's right out of a headline for what we are seeing today. They take their dark hearts, they take their foolish and futile minds, and then turn it right back un us Christians and accuse, "How come you don't accept this? We hate you because you don't."

Nathan Jones: Exactly! What they hate through us is God. They hate God.

I've had an interesting conversation with an Atheist lately because of some of the Creation videos our ministry has put on YouTube. Now and then Atheists will sail past all their arguments and their statements and their ad hominem attacks and finally make it clear that they believe there is a God, but they reject God because God is going to send then to Hell. They won't accept Jesus' salvation. They say they want a third avenue which is for God just to leave them alone. But, that's not the truth of reality for God to leave justice undone.

It's a shame that their sin matters so much more to them than what God can give them in terms of eternal life and salvation and forgiveness. God loves us so much that He sacrificed His own Son to provide a way through faith that we could accept salvation. What an amazing act of love! To turn down such such a gift is a crime upon the Gift Giver. It truly is a sad testimony of what a depraved mind does. It makes one in effect insane.

Another sad effect of sin insanity that we are especially seeing in the United States and other countries around the world that are crumbling morally, the people actually want their nations to crumble. That's another sign of a depraved mind when they want to see everything around them fall apart. Such thinking must be a judgment, like a kind of like a built-in self-destruct system that God has built into us for when we become mentally depraved, where we want to destroy ourselves which eventually rids society of all so much immorality.

Matt Buff: That I believe is exactly right. Yes, the liberal mind is a depraved mind and a psychotic mind because it keeps trying to do the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. It's the very definition of insanity.

Nathan Jones: Crazy are the policies we see coming out from liberally controlled government agencies. Take for instance the environmental policies. Alright, the United States is getting nearly 15 trillion dollars in debt, an yet we have 400 years worth of oil and natural gas beneath United States soil. If we pulled that out of the ground and sold it we would get rid of our entire national debt. We would become a world leader again economically. We would not have to depend on our enemies to supply our oil and gas needs. Our country would be truly bountiful. But, the depraved mind says that we must save the salmon, or we need to save that tree because they are more important than us living in poverty and squalor and being subjected to our debtors. An example is the shutting down of the Keystone Pipeline project which Obama did under great pressure by the environmentalist. That type of thinking is futile. It is self-destructive and eventually it ends up putting us all into slavery to our creditors. History attests to that result.

Matt Buff: It does attest to that even in ways we just can't imagine.


In the last part of this interview with Matt Buff concerning Romans 1 and society, we'll look at some of what Lamb & Lion Ministries is doing to educate people in this time period of increasing immorality.

12 comments:

Rodney said...

As in the Days of Noah and Lot, so will it be prior to the coming of the Lord! Immorality and violence filled the earth in the time of Noah at such a great magnitude resulting in a global flood! The same seducing spirits present then are increasingly present now, their influence gains as the rebellion of mankind accelerates.

Homosexuality is the pinnacle of rebellion against the Lord and now our children are being indoctrinated to accept this open rebellion as normal! It is not a lifestyle, it is a choice to accept death, both spiritual and physical due to their burning lust for the same sex!

On all sides the Church is under siege, many are battle weary and have allowed the enemy to enter into the camp being cleverly disguised as a fellow soldier! They have crept in unawares and yet have gained influence and a following in our sanctuaries. Their message is universalism and that truth is not absolute but is shaped according to their will!

Those of us who have yet identified these enemies in our local churches have been isolated and despised by those who once embraced us as brothers/sisters in Christ! Though we press on in warning those who are persuaded to follow after them, they have stopped their ears and embraced a lie that was introduced long ago to Eve in the Garden of God!

In the end however, victory belongs to the Bride of Christ, not by our own might yet by the triumph of truth and righteousness as found in our Messiah, Lord, God, and King!!

Susie said...

Rodney! Amen!!!

And..... i cringe thinking that.... my late husband and i were actually married on apr 20.. of course totally ignorant to the weed thing and any other negative assocoation with that day...

Rodney said...

Susie,

It would be true that you have provided something positive to a day in which the world embraces darkness! In your marraige you give honor to the Lord God, yet in their worship of the creation and their love of scorceries they choose to dishonor him! The world despises what is good and perfect choosing to willingly rebel against all that God has created for us!

Rodney said...

Just heard respected author and prophecy scholar Grant Jeffrey went home to be with the Lord after a sudden illness! In a few short months we have lost Chuck Colson, J.R. Church, and now Grant Jeffrey! It is also reported that Hal Lindsey also is experiencing health issues! This has my conspiracy alarm going off in my head! Would you expect anything less from such a crazy man as myself?

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the news about grant Jeffery I knew he was in hospital didn't know it was serious I also was very sad when jr church died if Hal Lindsey is ill I will be so fearful the only other one that could also be of a concern is van impe and he has has some illnesses also I hope God doesnot take this sites mentor and leave all here on our own speculating the latest end doom and gloom all around us

Susie said...

O my gosh!!! Grant jeffrey! !! I cant believe it! And hal lindsay ill too? What is going on ??? O how we love our awesome prophecy teachers:(:( Lord we ask u to bring ur peace and love to their families... and to the millions who learned for many years from them and r saddened by this loss.
And pLord, please heal hal lindsay. Amen.
Grant Jeffrey with the Lord!!!! Can u imagine what a glorious time he must be having....

Rodney, thank u for ur comment about my anniversary date ... and for the info on our loss in the prophecy community. :)

Rodney said...

Anon,

The truth is never doom and gloom, it reveals to us the plan of God for the Ages! The Lord provided this map to his children that we might not be fearful but warn those that refuse to acknowledge him, to repent and receive the gift of salvation, purchased by the Blood of the Lamb!

The Word of God was also provided to us as a guide to prevent believers from being led by every wind of doctrine and fables! The Holy Spirit guides us into all truth and also shows us things yet to take place! As believers we can have confidence in the truth of the Word of God, finding comfort and joy in the promises of the Lord God and be renewed in strength as we wait upon our Master with expectation.

Rodney said...

Susie,

You are more then welcome, may the Lord bless and comfort all concerned and may strong men and women of faith rise up in their place to share the message of our soon coming Lord Yeshua to such a wide audience!

Susie said...

And again rodney, amen!

Anon!! Prophecy is exciting and wonderful!! We (believers) have nothing to fear! Imo, doom and gloom is only for those who reject the gospel! Praise God every body! The Lord is coming for us very soon.

Does anybody know what is going on with Hal Lindsay?
And .. we ALL need to pray for our prophecy leaders and.. and that the Lord will raise up more good ones...... Lord protect dave reagan... jack van impe.... hal lindsay..... amen

Susie said...

Rodney, in case u check back here.... i wanted ur opinion... why do u think it is (or maybe im just missing something?) That noone is saying much about the oil found on israel land?
I thought there would have been more said on that... seeing as u and i agreed that it is the hook in thw jaw spoke of in ezekiel

Rodney said...

Susie,

This oil/gas discovery is a major find, yet it also extends into Lebanon, Syria, Greece, Cyprus, and Turkish territory! This Leviathan Field is so vast and its capacity so great it has been termed the "New Persian Gulf".

Though it is certain that Russia wants to expand its Gazprom reach into this area, it is also certain that the United States and Europe is also salivating over this area! I believe the reason the West asks Russia and company if they are coming to take a spoil and a prey during the Gog/Magog invasion simply because they too lusted after these same resources!

Susie said...

Rodney.... hmmmmm.. certainly food for tbought... it probably sounds horrible to some to hear me say this, but i was hoping that this oil discovery was singularly located on israeli soil.. only in the hopes of the prophecy being fullfiled in the book of ezekiel... not wishing any harm to any israeli of course.. just yearning.... u no....