Friday, August 17, 2012

Revelation Panel: History or Prophecy? Part 1

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Over the next few weeks we will continue to share with you the opinions of 13 Bible prophecy experts concerning various questions related to the book of Revelation. The members of our panel of Bible prophecy experts will now address:

#4. Is the book of Revelation history or prophecy?

This question regarding the book of Revelation is a very important one. It has to do with a very strange interpretation of the book of Revelation that's called Preterism. That word is based a Latin word that means "past tense," and thus, a Preterist is a person who believes that most of the prophecies in the book of Revelation were fulfilled in 70 AD when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem. Extreme Preterists even believe that the Second Coming of Jesus occurred at that time.

In summary, Preterists believe the book of Revelation was written before 70 AD and that it contains prophecy that has been fulfilled rather than prophecies that relate to the future. So, the question for our Bible prophecy experts is really more on how they would respond to the Preterist argument that the book of Revelation is history rather than prophecy.

Mark Hitchcock, Faith Bible Church
The difficulty that Preterism has is when they try to go through the book of Revelation and consistently take what it says in a literal way. If you use a consistent, literal interpretation they can't fit the events in the book of Revelation into the events around 70 AD. They try to fit it all in the Roman war, the Jewish War, and the events of 70 AD concerning the destruction of Jerusalem. But what they do is they find some things that you could fit with a stretch, but then when they come to places that don't fit they say, "Well, that's just symbolic." So, they're not consistent. And a friend of mine used to say, "If you keep changing the rules in the middle of the game then you know anybody could win that way." And, that's what they do.

The other big problem they have is the book of Revelation was not written in 65 AD. They take it as prophecy of events in 70 AD, which means it had to be written before 70 AD. Whereas, the consistent witness of Church history from the very beginning is that the book of Revelation was written near the end of Domitian's reign in 95 AD. So, if the book of Revelation was written one day after 70 AD, then the whole view goes down the drain. What's really the Achilles' heel of Preterism is that the book of Revelation was written in 95 AD.

Al Gist, Maranatha Evangelistic Ministries
I would say that Preterism is probably the most ridiculous interpretation of Bible Scripture ever devised by man. The idea that the book of Revelation was fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD is utterly ridiculous. I mean, where in 70 AD do we find the great Two Witnesses? Where do we find the 144,000 special servants of God? Was there a great earthquake, the mother of all earthquakes, at that time? Were there 100 pound hailstones falling from the sky? And above everything else, did Jesus come at that time?

The only way a Preterist can answer any of those questions and many more like them is to just spiritualize the Scriptures. They simple say that even though the Bible says it clearly this way, it doesn't mean it that way, it means something different. Of course, if you do that you can make the Bible say anything in the world.

So, Preterism in my mind is just is way off the mark. It doesn't even come close to truly understanding end time events.

Daymond Duck, Prophecy Plus Ministries
Preterism is nonsense. I just want to cut right to the chase — its nonsense. Preterists spiritualize the Scriptures. They allegorize them. They have the Bible saying things that it does not say. I think because they do this kind of thing they do a lot of harm. They cause a lot of misunderstanding and a lot of damage in the Church.

I believe the book of Revelation is a book of prophecy. One, because God gave it and He never calls it a book of history. In fact, five times in the book of Revelation He calls it a book of prophecy. So, if God calls it a book of prophecy, I really am kind of offended by people calling it a book of history. God knows what He wrote.

The Bible tells us to watch for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. There would be no reason to watch for it if all prophecy has been fulfilled if Jesus has come back. It is not a book of history. There is no evidence that there was a seven year covenant before 70 AD for peace in the Middle East. There is no evidence that Babylon was destroyed by fire in 70 AD in one hour, and in fact it wasn't. There is no evidence that the Euphrates River dried up so the Kings of the East could cross in 70 AD. There is no evidence that anybody was able to track all buying and selling in 70 AD. There is no evidence that the sun and the moon were darkened and the stars fell out of the sky in 70 AD. There is no evidence that the Two Witnesses were killed and their bodies lay in the street of Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days and the whole world could see them in 70 AD. There is no evidence that Jesus came back and rescued Israel at the Battle of Armageddon in 70 AD. Rather, if you think about it, there is tons of evidence that these things are coming on the scene right now in the form of the peace negotiations and globalism and technology and barcodes and television, and all of these kind of things.

Don Perkins, According to Prophecy Ministries
My response is that the Preterist view is wrong for a number of reasons. I believe that there are many events in the book of Revelation that have not been fulfilled. We just haven't seen them completed after 70 AD. Case in point is the Mark of the Beast. Chapter 20 of Revelation gives us the literal reign of the Messiah. No where in history do you see Christ reigning on the throne of David as the Messiah. So, there are a number of events that the book of Revelation talks about that just haven't happened. We have the 21 judgments of the Great Tribulation. No where do we see that in world history to make the book of Revelation complete. No, I believe the Preterist view in incorrect.

August Rosado, Today in Bible Prophecy Ministries
I disagree strongly with the Preterist interpretation. Many of the Early Church Fathers believed that the book of Revelation was written between 90 and 96 AD. For instance, Irenaeus who was a disciple of Polycarp was directly discipled by the Apostle John, and he said that John authored the book of Revelation at the end of Domitian's reign. Domitian reigned roughly between 81-96 AD, so here we have an early source that confirms that John wrote the book during 81 to 96 AD. I would rather believe an earlier source rather than an 18th Century source, in this case Luis del Alcázar. That's the main reason why I strongly disagree with the Preterist's viewpoint. The Early Church Fathers believed that John wrote that book between 90 and 96 AD. With that case the Preterist's view goes out the window.

Gary Fisher, Lion of Judah Ministries
First of all, if Revelation is history then where is Jesus at the Mount of Olives in Revelation 19? There is no account of Jesus ever coming back to this earth as of yet. Praise the Lord He is coming as King of Kings and Lord of Lords! But, He hasn't been here yet. To insist that this is history is nothing but an insult to the glory that will appear when He shows up on the Mount of Olives, and that never has happened.

Second of all, in Revelation 6 carnage is described in the first eight verses. I believe 25% of the world's population will die. That has never occurred in history. The problem emerges and the question comes: "Do we take this book literally?" Is the Second Coming of Christ even allegorical? Is Revelation 6 allegorical? This 25% of the population dying, is that just an allegorical statement that some people die? We get into so much trouble allegorizing the Scripture. If we take it literally, then none of it has ever been fulfilled in history.

There is also a third issue concerning the question of the date Revelation was written. We have the writings of the Early Church Father's that give credence to the fact that it was written at a later date, say 95 AD, Irenaeus wrote something about Domitian being in place when John wrote. There couldn't be an early date of 70 AD then, so Revelation had to have been written at a later date.


In the next part of this series on reading and understanding Revelation, the remaining members of our panel of Bible prophecy experts will continue to answer the fourth question, "Is the book of Revelation history or prophecy?"

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Looks like people are not making comments on this anymore. Maybe afraid they will be shot down as not being prophetically correct or scholarly enough. So much for dialogue. Good luck everyone. Looks like we're on our own. Signing off this planet soon or is that too pre trib?

Anonymous said...

Very glad that Lamb/Lion is bringing this dialogue to the public. Wish it was more in-depth and perhaps more conversational, instead of question and answer format. Thank you. Looking forward to the next one!

Friend said...

Most of the comments say revelation is all prophecy for the future which on the whole I do believe this is true. Even though the churches were written to and that was a "present tense" I assume. But also remember thousands of years have gone by since this was written so some prophecy for the future is now our past. Get what I mean? So as time moves on the prophecies were, are and are to be.

Anonymous said...

I think that a lot of the prophecies are happening before our very eyes. I also think that that is why everyone is so interested in it..in Daniel it states
But go thou thy way till the end [be]: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

I also have a question.. You read a lot about people being frightening about different things that are being done now.. In Rapture Ready that was an headline about children being scanned in lunch lines. I disregard this. I believe we have a choice and will know what we are doing..

Reggie Hayes said...

I look at Revelation as both History and Prophecy. Since GOD knows the end from the begining ,it's history. Fron a human point of view it's prophecy. Much has been fulfilled , but there is still much ahead yet.



Reggie Hayes