By Nathan Jones
What is the end game for the teaching of Evolution?
We asked this question on our television show Christ in Prophecy of Carl Gallups, senior pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Milton, Florida, and the author of the best-selling books The Rabbi who Found Messiah and one of the best apologetics book called The Magic Man in the Sky. He is also the founder of the world famous PPSIMMONS YouTube channel and prominent Freedom Friday radio talk show host.
Dr. Reagan: The polls taken by the Barna Association and others clearly show that the average Christian today just simply doesn't even know the fundamentals of the faith.
Carl Gallups: No, they don't. They don't know the Word in its context. Now there's the key word — context. A lot of people only take snippets, you know little passages here and a little verse there, out of the Bible.
Dr. Reagan: You've got people who claim to be evangelicals who actually believe Jesus sinned.
Nathan Jones: I also saw that poll. Only 9% of today's population believe in Evangelical Christianity as in the Bible is infallible, Jesus was virgin born, and all the other non-negotiable fundamentals of the faith. We're down to just 9%!
Dr. Reagan: It is no wonder there is so much apostasy in the Church today, because people don't know the Word,. They no longer know how to test anything by the Word.
Carl Gallups: May I share a theory I have? I think a little over a 100 years ago in our culture we did something, and it was done on purpose. It came from the pits of Hell, but it was also planned by those desiring to destroy the foundation of this nation. We began teaching generation after generation after generation that there is no God and humanity came from monkeys. You see? Life is merely all a happenstance. You life is just one big cosmic accident.
To think that in some 6-10 thousand years of human history, the best that mankind has been able to come up with, if you leave God out of the picture, the best humanity has been able to come up with and wrapped pseudo-science around it is that we came from a common ancestor which is a primate. That primate came from a rat, that came from a reptile, that came from fish...
Nathan Jones: Ultimately Evolution teaches as you go back to the beginning that we came from nothing.
Carl Gallups: It goes from nothing to man, right, and that is the best they have been able to come up with.
Dr. Reagan: The interesting thing about Evolution when you look at the debates that were going on in the 1920's that lead up to the Scopes Trial, you'll find that the Evolutionists then were saying, "All we want is equal time. We just want to share our viewpoint along with yours."
Carl Gallups: Yes, they were asking for a "fair hearing."
Dr. Reagan: Come to today, and it is the Evolutionist's viewpoint and their viewpoint only that can be taught. No other viewpoint can be taught according to them.
Carl Gallups: That's right, because they had that planned all along. Evolution is a fact to them. If you believe in Creation or Intelligent Design, then you're an idiot. That's what they had planned all along. We picked that snake up and we got bit by it.
Dr. Reagan: What's the amazing thing about that too is that Evolution is just continually falling apart at the seams in terms of the arguments they present for it. DNA has actually destroyed the theory. How can you explain DNA? It is a program of billions of characters. DNA is a program that is put into each cell. It's an information system.
Nathan Jones: A fern's DNA is far more complex than a human being's, and yet the fern is supposed to be primitive.
Dr. Reagan: DNA is like an operational manual. Now, did that just appear?
Carl Gallups: No, information systems do not just appear. There is nothing in our real world that we have ever observed or demonstrated or repeated or falsified of an information system simply appearing. It just doesn't happen.
Dr. Reagan: It's like buying a computer without a motherboard and just sitting there and waiting for it to boot up.
Nathan Jones: As a guy who programs websites all the time, I know that I can't put a website up without any programming behind it. There wouldn't be anything there to look at. There would be nothing to see.
Carl Gallups: Well, if you would wait 4.5 billion years, there will be!
Dr. Reagan: DNA is the reason the world famous Evolutionists like Richard Dawkins have now claimed that they have to shift their thinking. Some are even going so far as claiming that maybe life came here floating on crystals from outer space.
Carl Gallups: Yes, that's not shifting your thinking. That's called shifty thinking.
Nathan Jones: I think it should be called science fiction.
Carl Gallups: Back to the societal angle which is where I want to tie Evolution, when you take generation after generation after generation, what you are doing is literally (and this an overused term, but it is the truth) you are dumbing people down. The final result is that you are destroying the foundation of our culture, which is the Judeo-Christian biblical foundation.
Now, that is not to say our nation was ever a solid Christian nation where only Christians could live here and only Christians could be citizens, but it was based on Christian values.
Carl Gallups: It was. Our legal system, our school system, our society, our laws, our structure our thinking — all were based on Judeo-Christian, biblical values. Evolution destroys that underpinning.
Think about this. We say, "We are thinking about the little kids." Yes, but those little kids have all grown up now under Evolutionary teachings. They are 50-60 years old and they are running our nation. They are our lawyers. They are our lawmakers, our Congressmen, our judges, and they are our Presidents and Vice Presidents. And so, we wonder what is wrong with our country? Well, we taught our country that there is no God and that our nearest common ancestor is an ape.
Dr. Reagan: All of this kind of thinking has infiltrated the church and the pulpit as well, hasn't it?
Carl Gallups: Yes, yes, it has. Why? Because a lot of them grew up under Evolutionary teachings as well. Churches have constantly tried to figure out a way to mix the Bible and Evolution together.
Dr. Reagan: The result is the Church has been marginalized and anybody who believes the fundamentals of the Word of God is a right-wing fanatic.
Carl Gallups: Absolutely! But, think of this, you could not pull a baby out of a mother's womb and kill it unless you thought there was no value to life. You could not say that two men could be married and that be sanctified unless you thought there was no value to marriage. The only way you can get to those conclusions and others is by destroying the Judeo-Christian foundation. Evolution has done that to our society.
In the third segment of our interview with Pastor Carl Gallups on America's spiritual crisis, Carl will explain the Obama Administration's spiritual impact on our nation.