Comments on The Christ in Prophecy Journal: The Nine End Time Wars of the Bible: Part 1

Having written a book named Revelations back in 20...

2009-12-20T14:24:20.465-06:00

Having written a book named Revelations back in 2003, I concur with Bill and david, that th ePsalm 83 war comes first. The rapture should occur next as after a nuclear strike on Damascus (if not other areas) by Israel will totally shake and frighten the worlds governments and a PEACE TREATY will be screamingly demanded immediately. That provides a luanching pad for the 7 yr treaty with the anti-christ ( who I now conisder most likely to be Sarkozy) for reasons too numerous to go into here. The rapture will occure before that treaty is 'confirmed, then the world crying PEACE< PEACE will happen but THEN the END comes wquickly as Jesus said. Thats when the Ezek. 38-39 war will commence.

Yeah, Billy, you'd think the Russian response woul...

2009-10-28T17:40:10.610-05:00

Yeah, Billy, you'd think the Russian response would be immediate, but look at how long it took the USA to respond to 9/11; several months.

We had to forge alliances as well gather intel. Russia will do the same thing. And, as hartdawg said, it takes time to muster an army.

Veni, I struggle with that thought also....people ...

2009-10-28T16:38:17.433-05:00

Veni,
I struggle with that thought also....people I know and love would not be raptured if it were to occur this very minute. And that distresses me a great deal. I pray for them, I talk to them and try to show them all the evidence. That's all that I can do. But, like so many people in regards to this subject....they don't want to think about it, therefore it isn't real or going to happen. How sad. :-(

Buggg

Hey Buggg, I guess your right... but I can't help ...

2009-10-28T09:24:22.323-05:00

Hey Buggg,
I guess your right... but I can't help but think of all of those people that won't know Jesus and that need people to tell them... I know there will be more Christians after us, including the 144,000 witnesses (I think I got the number right...) but still, I guess I don't like to think of people burning in hell... especially people I know that wouldn't go up in the rapture if it were to happen now.

crollo the crucifixion psalm is psalm 22. psalm 2 ...

2009-10-28T03:16:39.997-05:00

crollo
the crucifixion psalm is psalm 22. psalm 2 is also prophetic referring to armeggedon....yes, i for one know EXACTLY how people are. they`ll just explain it away. Gog/Magog will be different. dr reagan and nathan jones can prolly give you a good answer on which psalms are prophetic.

I have read other articles on this site about the ...

2009-10-28T02:34:19.780-05:00

I have read other articles on this site about the Psalm 83 war, and while I don't have a clue as to whether it happens before or after the rapture, I have to admit that placing it before the Gog-Magog war makes perfect sense. This guy has made a very good case. I'm curious tho- how many other Psalms are prophetic? I can think of one off hand that refers to the suffering and crucifiction of Christ (although I can't remember which Psalm that one is...) but are there others? When I think of prophetic books in the Bible, Psalms isn't really one that I think of.
On another subject- imagine if this war DID happen before the rapture. You could take this article, the newspaper, and your Bible to show unbelievers. That SHOULD rock some people! It "should" but you know how we (people) are....

billy i personally think the reason the response i...

2009-10-27T19:30:50.769-05:00

billy
i personally think the reason the response isnt immidiate is 1)for an element of surprise 2)to allow i`m guessing5-12 months to rally the whole middle east 3)removal of the restrainer i.e rapture. the time of peace is therefore very short-lived. just my opinion

The most amazing part of all this to me is that wi...

2009-10-27T18:46:30.941-05:00

The most amazing part of all this to me is that without God in charge of this I would say "No way, that could NEVER happen."

I mean, who would believe Russia wouldn't IMMEDIATELY invade/retaliate against Israel after the Psalm 83 event, yet it appears God will hold them back and allow a time of peace and security.

Personally, I think Psalm 83 takes place before Go...

2009-10-27T17:34:25.878-05:00

Personally, I think Psalm 83 takes place before Gog-Magog based on the same reasoning Mr. Salus gives: it's logical.

And here is something to consider: Israel gets 90% of their oil from mother Russia. Think about that. When Israel defeats her enemies in the Psalm 83 war, they will obtain the Arab oil fields. No more need for Russia.

Couple that with all the money Russia would be losing from these unfulfilled contracts with Arab nations Mr. Salus mentioned.

That sets the Gog-Magog offensive up perfectly. Russia would have no choice but to get her cronies together and go after "spoil" as Ezekiel calls it.

nathan i totally agree with you ont that. the vers...

2009-10-27T17:07:36.125-05:00

nathan
i totally agree with you ont that. the verse you used is yet another reason i place Gog/magog after the rapture. the whole earth will be shaken and i imagine gas being rationed and 6.00-8.00 a gallon. (only speculation)

Veni, I'd rather be in heaven at the feast! I'm s...

2009-10-27T16:58:38.578-05:00

Veni,
I'd rather be in heaven at the feast! I'm sure someone up there will give us the updates we need.

:-) Buggg

Psalm 83 may be worth living through, but not Gog-...

2009-10-27T16:55:06.287-05:00

Psalm 83 may be worth living through, but not Gog-Magog. Ezekiel 38-39 brings the worst global earthquake so far in history (Ezek. 38:20) "...all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground."

You guys really don't want to be around when all o...

2009-10-27T16:37:36.603-05:00

You guys really don't want to be around when all of this is going on? Wow, I do! I think it would be so amazing to see God working and to see prophesies fulfilled... Ah... I can see it now...

Billy i donno bout psalm 83, i`m like 51% sure itl...

2009-10-27T15:30:46.118-05:00

Billy
i donno bout psalm 83, i`m like 51% sure itll happen before the rapture and my position changes as often as seattles weather. i dont disagree about the timing. i only somewhat disagree about WANTING to miss psalm 83. think about it billy:wouldnt you like to see obama and the united nations(united nothing) and europe forced to buy their oil from isreal? i sure would.

dawg, I actually agree with you that we may witne...

2009-10-27T15:05:47.675-05:00

dawg,

I actually agree with you that we may witness the Psalm 83...note what I said with emphasis added:

...I have hope that the Rapture will come before MOST of the judgement and Israel focused end times events occur.

I think we'll escape most of it but maybe not all of it. Though I admit I'd rather miss it all.

anon, i`m not sure i agree with you, psalm 83 coul...

2009-10-27T14:59:13.663-05:00

anon, i`m not sure i agree with you, psalm 83 could very well be after the rapture, and furthermore tho i somewhat jokingly mentioned people eating crow cause they have to buy oil from isreal i think thatll be one of the motives for Gog/magog (they wont like the taste of crow) so i thing psalm 83, Gog/magog, the tribulation and the rapture all happen within a year or so from each other so the rapture is by no means any less eminent

I have read the abouth the psalm 83war and accordi...

2009-10-27T14:41:39.090-05:00

I have read the abouth the psalm 83war and according and it seems to be before the tribulation. After I will be the war of gog and magog. the war of gog and magog in ezequiel will be after the rapture it seems. The only thing that I don't like about the war of psalm 83 is that has to be first then the rapture and in addition it will take some times that Israel to ocupy the the middle east and the notion of the Bible that rapture of Christ is eminent and become less eminent becuase it will take more time may be 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 or 57 years.

yo billy, i`m ALMOST in total agreement with 1 exe...

2009-10-27T14:12:18.875-05:00

yo billy, i`m ALMOST in total agreement with 1 exeption: i`d like to see psalm 83 happen 1st so obamanothing and europe and alot of other idiots will have to eat crow when they`re forced to buy oil from isreal. that will give me some satisfaction.

I have to admit, even though I know my fate and th...

2009-10-27T13:25:15.975-05:00

I have to admit, even though I know my fate and the outcome of the end times, even as a Christian with a decent knowledge of Revelation, the coming days are a bit scary.

The ONLY thing that eases my fears is the Rapture. When I think of the Rapture and being able to escape these dreaded events, then I calm down and get hopeful again.

That is why I have hope that the Rapture will come before most of the judgement and Israel focused end times events occur.

I'm thrilled to see some articles about Israel on ...

2009-10-27T13:11:30.495-05:00

I'm thrilled to see some articles about Israel on here again. I admit that I got a little tired of the creation vs. evolution debate. I know it's important and very valuable information, and I appreciate all the hard work Nathan and others put into it. However, since I love to keep up with Israel, I was having a bit of "Israel withdrawal," if you know what I mean.

Thanks for posting these transcripts. I'd much rather read an interview than listen to it.

I can't wait to hear what Dr. Reagan has to say about America's near future. Should be very interesting.

i place Gog/magog right AFTER the rapture cuz 1)am...

2009-10-27T10:43:00.253-05:00

i place Gog/magog right AFTER the rapture cuz 1)america is no longer a superpower 2)God is once again dealing with isreal 3)God says the whole earth "will quake" 4)God is dealing with the nations in judgement. i`m expecting to see psalm 83 prolly within the next 1-3years.

also, if it took place before the rapture what a w...

2009-10-27T10:38:52.643-05:00

also, if it took place before the rapture what a witnessing tool. since it seems probable Gog/magog takes place AFTER the rapture and this war precedes Gog/magog by i`m guessing 5-12months it would signal the rapture is VERY,VERY near. then again this battle could take place AFTER the rapture tho my money is on right before (sorry nathan, i disagree slightly with you on this)

well, a couple of things about this, hopefully in ...

2009-10-27T10:33:44.960-05:00

well, a couple of things about this, hopefully in the next post bill will give his opinion as to whether this takes place before or after the rapture. personally i believe it either takes place VERY shortly before or VERY shortly after. if it took place very shortly before the rapture not only would isreal be in peace but the rest of the world would breath a sigh of relief cuz the threat of terrorism would be minimized and people would be "eating and drinking and giving in marriage..." the situation at the time of the rapture